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Thursday, October 28, 2010

Candidates Face Off at Education Debate

Incumbent State Senator Bob Duff (D) and Republican opponent Artie Kassimis squared off on education related issues during a debate at City Hall on Thursday night. Organized by the League of Women Voters of Norwalk and REd Apples of Norwalk, the two hour forum  was attended by all of Norwalk’s legislative candidates who focused on state funding of schools, the achievement gap, Race to the Top, charter schools and teacher merit pay.
Throughout the debate, Duff called education a “priority” that is linked with the long term success of the state. “Employers want an educated workforce,” he said. Kassimis focused on the state’s fiscal problems n repeatedly mentioning the state’s $3.4 billion deficit. “We have to tighten our belt. They [the Democrats] continue to sign bills that cost money. Who is going to pay for them?” he said.

Kassimis questioned why Norwalk was not receiving more money through the Educational Cost Sharing formula by which school districts in the state are allotted money per pupil. “Why is Norwalk not getting more money. We only get 8 cent on the dollar of what we send to Hartford,” he said. Kassimis faulted Duff for allowing Meriden, the town represented by Senator Thomas Gaffey, chair of the Senate’s appropriations committee to receives five times the funding that Norwalk receives despite being much smaller in size. Kassimis incorrectly referred to Duff as the vice chair of the appropriations committee. While not vice chair, Duff is a member of the committee.

“The formula is completely flawed,” said Kassimis. “Norwalk is being punished.”

“I have never been vice chairman of the committee, “ said Duff who focused of his bipartisan work to bring funds to Norwalk. While Kassimis said that funding has decreased in the last 10 years, Duff said that the amount of state funding to Norwalk increased 24% in the first four years of his term, before the recession. “We have to continue to fight for Norwalk on a bipartisan basis,” he said.

Early childhood education was cited by both candidates as the primary way to reduce the achievement gap. Both candidates support lifting the cap on charter school in the state. “Some children have different needs and learn better in different environments,” said Duff, explaining that while he supports charter schools they are are not a “silver bullet.”

Kassimis said he was not in favor of tying student test scores to merit pay for teachers, which is a central component of the Obama Administration’s education reform agenda. “This will pit teachers against each other,” said Kassimis. “Teachers are not doing this for the money, they are doing it for the kids. We lose the purpose of teaching if we base it on money.” Duff, however, said merit pay can be “done well”, based on a collaborative model, as is the case in New Haven.

Both candidates addressed the state’s rejected Race to the Top application. Kassimis said he supported the grant’s general goal to raise standards, but says that the stat is now burdened with $17 million of expenses to pay for increased high school graduation requirements. “Who is going to pay for the additional teachers?” he asked, also noting that the application did not address how to further early childhood education.

“I will not apologize for supporting Race to the Top,”  said Duff.  “The bill was about higher standards in math, science and world languages.  We must march forward.” 

After the first round of debate,  six of Norwalk’s legislative candidates shared the stage.  Chris Perone (D) & opponent Joanne Romano (R) of 137 District, Larry Cafero (R) & Anna Duleep (D) of the142rd District: Peggy Reeves (D) & Gail Lavielle (R) of the 143rd district discussed charter schools, the achievement gap, student achievement, and state funding to schools.


Regarding the achievement gap, Lavielle discussed the importance of early childhood learning and the necessity of making sure that children are reading by third grade. Reeves concurred suggesting that the state have universal preschool. Duleep, a Harvard graduate, talked about the importance of high expectations for minority students. “We need to challenge stereotypes and have high standards,” she said. Her opponent Larry Cafero said that parent involvement is the key to success. Romano cautioned about “constantly putting kids into categories.” Perone talked about the importance to making education a focus of the executive branch.

When asked about the first thing that they would do for education if elected, almost all of them said they try and bring more money to the city. “We have to reformulate the ECS formula,” said Romano referring to the formula by which districts receive state funding. Cafero went as far as to say that the decision about the ECS formula should be taken out of the legislature. “Let’s create a group outside of politics.” The Republican candidates, ?

On the topic of funding, the debate ended with Duleep questioning why Larry Cafero’s law firm, Brown, Rudnick, of Hartford, a top tier firm in Hartford continues to serve as expulsion officers for the Norwalk Board of Education. “We are spending $40,000 on expulsion hearings. We cannot afford that caliber of law firm. Isn’t there a less expensive alternative?” asked Duleep citing a study by the BOE finance committee.

“There are budgeted legal feels. I am doing a credible job and am entitled to be compensated,” said Cafero.

28 comments:

  1. Interesting question by Duleep to Cafero. He may be doing a credible job, but I'm sure there must be another credible attorney who doesn't charge as much.
    "There are budgeted legal fees' .....SO? Save on the budget and lower the cost legal fees! The BOE budgets too, but their budgets are cut. That's no argument, Mr. Cafero!

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  2. Looking at all costs is the job of the Board of ed, needing a suspension officer is a cost that has to be factored in. That comment was a red herring, Duleep tried to make it seem like something wrong had happened, it didn't. She should have stuck to education issues instead of personal attacks, it made her look petty. Notice Cafero didn't ask her what private school she went to.

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  3. What she was saying is that there could be someone cheaper to do the job, that's all. Yes, the cost has to be factored in, but someone cheaper could save the BOE some money.

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  4. Artie Kassimis made some very good points that were unanswered by Sen. Duff.
    First, Kassimis gave a detailed analysis of the Education Cost Sharing formula and how each element disadvantaged Norwalk. Sen. Duff did not share many details about how he would change the formula, nor did he explain why he has allowed the inequity to exist for years.
    Second, Sen. Duff took repeated credit for bringing more money to Norwalk for our schools. However, the ECS formula has an automatic increase built into it--SO ALL DISTRICTS SHOULD GET MORE MONEY EVERY YEAR. If Sen. Duff wants to take credit for that part of the ECS formula, then he must also take responsibility for those parts of the formula that advantage Meriden but disadvantage Norwalk.
    If you examine the total ECS aid Norwalk received from 2002 to 2008, our percentage (of the total ECS grants awarded) decreased!
    Let's be abundantly clear-- two years ago, Sen. Duff didn't address the inequity of ECS-- in fact, quite the opposite, he took credit for the money Norwalk was receiving. This year, because Artie Kassimis is a dad of school children who knows how unfairly Norwalk's schools are funded by the state (especially compared to Meriden and other smaller towns), the issue is finally being brought to the forefront.

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  5. Senator Duff has been extraordinary in Norwalk. I would vote for him in a heartbeat again. I am saddened that this one issue is all it comes down to for you, Steve.

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  6. For me, being an advocate for Norwalk's kids means taking an interest in those state candidates who have an impact on them. The State Senate race has a definite impact on our kids and our schools. Artie's support of education has earned my support for him.

    Sen. Duff’s lack of leadership in the state Education Cost Sharing (ECS) funding is daunting. It’s a hardly a “single issue” for Norwalk’s more than 10,000 public school students. He can’t claim credit for Norwalk’s increase in ECS funding (which was built into the formula), but not take responsibility for its gross inequity (also, for every dollar Norwalk received because it was built-into the formula, Meriden received $5).
    Also, in addition to the ECS issue, I disagreed with Sen. Duff’s support of the 2010 Education Reform bill. It was a one-size fits all set of set of changes that will require school systems to divert funds to high school education. Artie highlighted this point—that we can’t divorce practical reality from the lofty goals of bills—that we need to determine how we pay for the measures we support.
    But, let’s get back to the 2010 Ed Reform bill. I disagree that a state mandate of a “Capstone” project for all high school students is appropriate—a comprehensive research project can be daunting (both emotionally and intellectually) and not all high school seniors (even those going on to college) can necessarily manage it, along with college applications, school activities, SAT’s, Advanced Placement tests and all the other adventures (and dramas) of being 17 or 18. It sounds good politically to say you’re in favor of “increased rigor”—but individual school districts should set standards of rigor that are appropriate for them. Also, there is just no mechanism to pay for the added teachers required by these proposals Bob supports. It would be have nice if he had acknowledged the costs and the challenges it presents for local school boards. But, he didn’t.
    You should also balance what the 2010 Education Reform bill said about establishing a council to study methods of teacher evaluation using student achievement data and Bob’s claims that the bill increased accountability. I think there’s a difference between approving a committee to study something and taking credit for results the committee hasn’t even suggested yet.

    Listen, I have no doubt that Bob Duff hasn’t set a great example of conscientious constituent service. Unfortunately, we also need to evaluate our leaders on how their votes have affected us— and, in these times, I just think that Bob’s votes on various school bills haven’t been in Norwalk’s best interests.

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  7. A point of fact: the ENTIRE Fairfield County legislators (both Democrat and Republican) work very hard TOGETHER to bring back a fair share of education dollars to Fairfield County, via the ECS funding and other grants.

    The idea they are not voting to help education is absurd.

    The Board of Education removal for poor performing schools has been "on the books" for some time. Perhaps we need to look at that more closely for Norwalk, which is not meeting standards in spite of spending way beyond other cities.

    What is Steve Colarossi done with the existing funds to improve our schools?

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  8. Steve has never denied that he approved the purchase of a car from a grant for the after school programs at Naramake. At least I've never seen a flat out denial. Come on, Steve, deny that you had nothing to do with the purchase of the After School Program car using grant funds.

    What I am reading here is a typical Republican stand as evidenced throughout this country. It's a shame even Norwalk doesn't have Republicans who think for themselves!

    Steve, you are a POLITICIAN with a capital P.

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  9. Wow-- it's a sad day when a Board of Ed member can't have an opinion about a state law that directly affects our schools.
    I'm still undecided in the State Senate race. I'm really concerned about how bad our state budget is, but rarely vote for R's on the state or federal level.
    But then again, I like that Artie has some definite ideas about education and has the chutzpah to question all the new state laws.

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  10. Anyone that thinks the sad state of public education is one guys fault is either very simplistic in grasping complex issues and/or just building a political coalition for personal agendas. E.C.S. is an issue, no one argues that fact. What we need are some specific plans on how to restructure the formula. How do we integrate technology, ultimately saving money both short and long term and raise the bar, effectively preparing the students for their futures? Will we ever grow up ourselves and leave the playground bantering to the children? We know its broke, how about some specific creative ideas on solutions.

    Excerpt from Chris Sturgis blog,

    http://cby25.blogspot.com/2010/10/time-is-ripe-lets-design-next.html

    founder of

    http://www.ytfg.org/

    Hi all -- I think we need an initiative to explore online and blended learning for vulnerable youth. And I think we need to start designing it now. It would be a great project for Dept of Ed, DOJ, HHS and Labor to do together.

    There is such flurry about next generation learning in the foundation world. And with support from Stupski, six states are developing innovation labs. I just read about a new federal initiative to pilot media literacy for adult ed. They are using an online learning approach called Learning Web. So with all this activity, where is the focus on our kids.

    I think we need to find out what is going to work or not work as well for vulnerable youth. And we certainly haven't started talking yet about how we can use online learning to enhance outcomes for young people. What if a district had to offer blended learning opportunities for any students with high mobility so that they could always continue their learning whatever was happening in their lives. If there was a recommended software then maybe kids in detention could be using it, making headway and being able to continue when they were back in school. Students sent to transitional schools for suspension or because they are pregnant could use it and continue to use it when they returned to school.

    Foster care advocates introduced the concept of continuity of education....let's see what can happen if we apply a bit of creativity to expanding what that can mean.

    Chris is spot on target, like a laser.
    We are loosing. Spending on walls and prisons, bullets, bombs.

    Education is the key.

    Education is the solution.

    Integrating technology, streamlining services?

    Common Sense? Yes?

    Credits; Chris Sturgis, Youth Transition Funding Group.

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  11. Just saw an ad on Facebook about Education Cost Sharing funding that Kassimis had. It had a link to a state chart showing all the ECS grants for years. Norwalk really does get pennies compared to Bridgeport. The new guy is right.
    I think this is becoming the issue

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  12. The formula is based on poverty levels, as well as other factors. Do you really think Norwalk has the poverty levels that Bridgeport does?

    Educate yourself on what goes into the formula before making comments, please.

    So should we not vote in the other incumbents for the same reasons? Should we not vote in the Republicans who have not fixed the formula for Norwalk???????

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  13. Didn't you listen to Kassimis at the debate. He walked through all the different pieces of the ECS formula. He said that some of the data is old U.S. census data. That's not good for Norwalk. He explained that every school district keeps 75% of the money for students that have left for some other schools. How is that fair to Norwalk, where relatively few kids go to charters? That component has nothing, nada, zilch, to do with poverty.
    Kassimis talked about the base level of school aid that he said hurt cities like us that do a lot for the schools. I don't think that has much to do with poverty either because it's more about how much a city values its kids.

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  14. How about not voting for the Senate Assistant Majority Leader who had the power to put changing the ECS formula on the agenda but didn't.
    He's also the same guy who took credit for Norwalk getting more ECS.

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  15. Ok lets stow away the attacks and start looking at the facts. Yes the E.C.S. is not fairly structured. Gov. Rell herself agrees and commissioned a study, the results of which were just released last week. Anyone think the report stated to cut funding, close schools? No, of cousre not. The report confirmed all other reports and inquirys and studies from an alphabet soup of G.O's. and N.G.O's. If we want to strangle the country, slash education eliminate R/D.

    What all the scholars and economist are saying is we need to forget the damn bills for a moment and invest heavily in America and its resources. Wise investments like education, transportation, broadband, electric grids, clean renwewable energy and isnt it time we buried the wires and the internal combustion antique petrol motors? So much can be done and needs to be done. Get the gears a turning a bit. Old man on the porch, sharing some wisdom with his son. " some say save your dollar under your pillow, but when you awaken in the morning its still one dollar. If you invested that dollar in a good idea, every morn you wake up your dollars will grow.
    Dont waste your money at convience stores and shiny toys, invest in yourself and good ideas.

    I want to cast my vote for the candidates that design, construct and support legislation that is equitable, to all, not just the folks in mansions taking advantage of tax loopholes. I want to vote for candidates that build coalitions to support and get education reforms and infrastructure funding through.

    Who is going to get my vote?

    Jobs are immediate concerns and important, what about the kids? At the bottom of the food chain, I am taxed more than anyone that is a millionaire in some cases zillionaires. Why cant my kids get a quality education so they have a real and tangible opportunity to follow their dreams?

    Which candidate is going to support the children, their futures?

    Thats who gets my vote, my familiy's vote, my friends, neighbors votes.

    Even 'grumpy grandpa', grumbling about property taxes, wants his grandchildren to recieve a quality top notch public education. He just gets angry that so much is spent with such sorry results.

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  16. I do my own research, thank you, 11:11!

    From the State BOE minutes of June, 2010:

    Brian Mahoney presented an overview of the Education Cost Sharing (ECS) grant
    'Mr. Mahoney stated that Title I poverty is currently used in the ECS calculation. A discussion ensued about the use of free/reduced price meals as an alternative to Title I poverty. It was noted that the Title I data is annually updated by the U.S. Department of Education. While free/reduced data is also updated annually, it is currently not audited. Several committee members felt that the free/reduced data more accurately reflects the true level of student poverty in Connecticut.'

    While the census is not updated yearly, it is the best source of poverty levels at this time. Free and Reduced Lunch counts are not audited, and clearly can not be used to determine poverty at this time. Parents fill out the forms and write in their earnings. No one checks to see if these figures are accurate!

    Aside from misinformation on how poverty levels should be calculated, I ask you, do you really think Norwalk has the poverty levels that Bridgeport has?????
    No! The argument that Bridgeport unfairly gets more money than Norwalk is an unfair statement in itself. Check the facts! Politicians are disingenuous. They throw their own lies out into the public and most people say, 'Really? I didn't know that.' Let's research the facts!

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  17. Isnt it great when Team Duff keeps the spin going . . .
    Bridgeport is a poorer and bigger town. So it makes sense that would get more money. How much more is up for debate.
    The state's department of community development compiles income statistics-- that would be a better source b/c it's more current.
    Nice lie on the alleged accuracy of census data-- but CENSUS DATA IS ALL SELF-REPORTED. Title I data is self-reported by parents also. Hard to see why Census Data should be used.
    Why didn't Duff know any of this at the debate? Why didn't he try to justify to Norwalk why Bridgeport taxpayers should pay a ridiculously small percentage of their taxes for their schools?
    Go the SDE site and look up the data on ECS funding. You'll see the disgraceful inequity.
    Then look at Duff's website and see where he talks about making it better! He doesn't because he just doesn't get it.

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  18. I'm no professor but I know how to read.
    So I took the big sheet that Artie passed out in my neighborhood and read what he said about these state grants.
    OK, let me tell the truth and say I took it out of the recyling bin because I just cant stand any more campaign papers ;)-
    But I looked up the bill he says Duff voted on to change this ECS formula. It's SB 404, 2008. He's right- Duff voted to change it, but still Norwalk didn't get its fair share.
    So, I guess like everyone I'm kind of wondering why wouldn't Duff have tried to change this bill to help us?
    It's kind of funny to have Norwalk and Bridgeport compared. But what about Meriden? What about Vernon? They're getting more money too-- and that's not fair. I don;t think it's fair that our senator hasn't fought for us.
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  19. I worked on Title I funding for the BOE. Norwalk's poverty levels are not anywhere near as high as most people think. Norwalk has its residents who are eligible for the Free & Reduced Lunch program, but most people forget about the the students attending the private schools. When poverty levels are determined, ALL students are taken into account, not only those in the public schools. Norwalk happens to have many families who earn enough to be above the poverty level.

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  20. Bob has done a good job in a very harsh climate. Bob Duff has earned our support and will continue to be available, to listen and to act whenever wherever he can. Thanks Bob, you are appreciated. We know your not on the education committe but we also know we can count on your stong unwavering support for education. Ask Duff, he will do all he can to get it done. isnt that what we need, responsive and responsible officials? Good man derserves and has earned our confidence.

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  21. I am not on Team Duff and I do not spin. I resent that remark!

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  22. So does any one really think Bob Duff will do anything to change the ECS formula? He didn't mention in his victory speech- just talked about the achievement gap. Can't say I'm expecting big changes from him.

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  23. Why pick on him? How about your Republican cronies? Should we look at what they have done to change the achievement gap or the ECS formula? Again, Norwalk is NOT all poor. Have you noticed all the expensive houses in Norwalk? Those kids usually go to private schools.

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  24. Funny point 11:13, but you know that Cafero went to public school and so did all his kids.
    It's up to the people in the Majority Party to make the proposals to get the ECS formula changed-- Larry is the "Minority" leader.
    The achievement gap is a moral issue and a local issue.

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  25. 2:25, you are the one who is funny! I gather that the 'minority leader' has no influence and therefore has nothing to do.....according to you. I don't think Cafero would like to be told that.

    Back to the topic at hand....
    Not many people understand the ECS formula. The ECS formula is so complex, in the manner in which it was constructed, that politicians can use it freely to 'spin' their own version of what is 'fair' and what is not. These politicians who are adept at spin can articulate arguments that appear to be credible, but they are not. Poverty levels in Norwalk are NOT the equivalent, or anywhere near the equivalent, of those in the districts mentioned above.

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  26. E.C.S. formula is easy to find. Google it!
    also all the statistics are there, by municipality across several years.

    le duh.

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  27. Honestly, where has Duleep been? Educators have high expectations for ALL students, regardless of gender, ethnicity, and/or specialities, including learning disabilities.

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  28. I know what the ECS formula is and how it is constructed, 6:26. That is not the issue.What I stated above still stands.

    I don't appreciate 'le duh.'
    Who taught you manners?

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