The Common Council stuck to its initial spending plan for the city, leaving the Board of Education budget at 2.4 percent. At Tuesday evening's meeting, the Council voted 10-4 along party lines, Republicans in favor, to set total city spending at $287 million, a 2.64 percent increase of the total city budget resulting in a 2 percent increase of city property taxes.
For the second time in less than a week, Norwalk residents came out in large number to advocate for raising the city spending cap . Tuesday’s crowd, however, was only half the size of last Thursday’s Finance committee meeting where more than 700 people filled Norwalk High's auditorium. Unlike last week, at this meeting several people spoke in favor of not increasing taxes or BOE spending. “We need to keep any tax increase to a minimum,” said Andrea Light who spoke about her underemployed neighbor, retirees and people who have lost their homes to foreclosures. “It’s tough enough getting by, let’s not add salt to their wounds.”
Republican Council Chair Rick McQuaid who voted against raising the cap said he was personally affected by the proposed BOE cuts more than most people. His job as an intervention aide at Naramake is on the chopping block. He reminded the audience that a small increase is better than no increase. “We began at a 0 percent increase. It was a tough battle to 2.6 percent.”
Republican council members said they had promised voters to keep taxes low. “My commitment is to low taxes,” said Council member Kelly Straniti who expressed concern about new state taxes proposed by Gov. Malloy. “It all adds up.” Council members also repeated their call to BOE unions to take wage and step freezes.
The Council’s four Democrats emphasized that spending on education was an investment. Before the Republicans voted on their plan, Council member Nora King had offered a resolution to raise the cap to allow for a BOE budget increase of 3.7 percent, instead of the 2.4 percent. “This would give our new superintendent more of a playing field to her vision.” Council member Laurel Lindstrom called the resolution “a compromise” that would add $50 a year to an average tax payers bill.
During public comments, parents, BOE members, union leaders, school principals and staff spoke in favor of raising the cap. “If the Council should increase the cap, we would do everything we can to make sure student programs are not eliminated,” said BOE finance Chair Steve Colarossi speaking with BOE chair Jack Chiaramonte and BOE vice chair Glen Iannacone behind him.
Bruce Mellion, president of the teachers union, said the district’s enrollment was up 449 students and the number of teachers was down by 65 over the last three years. “Norwalk schools are being squeezed,” he said.
Paul Bryant Smith, pastor of the First Congregational Church, worried that the cuts would disproportionately affect poor and minority children. “We have to look out for the benefit of the whole community.”
Superintendent Susan Marks asked the Council to “invest in our district” and spoke about the challenges that Norwalk students will confront in the future as they “face a global ecomony”. Marks said she didn’t want to see the district come to a “tipping point where it can't tip back the other way.” She also pledged to improve the efficiency and transparency of central office.
Marks’ words were echoed by Patrick MacDonald, a high school student at the Center for Global Studies. “Students in Norwalk are not where they need to be in order to compete in the global economy,” he said. “What sort of Norwalk do you want? One with lackluster schools?”
Wednesday, February 23, 2011
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Improve the efficiency and transparency of Central Office????? So now some of the administrators there will sit and have coffee with the principals more often? Don't you think teachers know what's happening? You had enough time to do that and it's not happening now. There are positions at central office that are not needed. Start there to save money, Susan Marks.
ReplyDeleteNow we find out from the unions,is it about the kids or is it the pay check?
ReplyDeleteIn 2009 for Norwalk's mid-term municipal elections, about 30% of voters turned out compared to an estimated 75% for the presidential election in 2008. Clearly local elections are not as important to most voters, as is the case nationally. Therefore, in addition to getting people out to the BOE, Common Council & BET meetings, we need parents at the polls for mid-term, local elections. And remember, the mayor appoints the BET members and finance director, so our voting power rests with the mayor, common council & BOE elective seats. So yes, this is definitely a political issue and come November, remember how they all casted their vote on this BOE budget.
ReplyDeleteI am a teacher and a resident, for me, it doesn't matter of they freeze my pay or raise my taxes. What matters is what they do with the money. That money better go directly to the students and not the admin. They better not keep the APs and cut the 1st grade aides, they better keep the sports teams and not give cushy contracts to CO with all the crazy perks they have been given in the past. It wouldn't be right to take money from teachers and/or taxpayers and then spend it foolishly. I am afraid though, that is what will happen.
ReplyDeleteYou know what, 12:50? I was present for all meetings regarding the budget and I did not see one... not one... reason why any of these council members would or could be blamed for working with figures as recommended by the city's budget director. I doubt anyone wants to hear how much money I spend in the classroom as a teacher or hear me defend how much work I do. As a teacher, I am embarrassed with the whining that continues still. Are we not professionals trained to do a job no matter what? We’ve reached a point where credibility is on the line by our comments and hyperemotional reactions. Everyday we hear news of budget crunches and ours is a country spiraling out of control. We are all to blame... no one BUT ourselves... for living on credit and expecting it never to hit a wall. Stop blaming, stop whining, and lastly, to Nora King and anyone else who chooses to make gross misleading comments about our schools: advertising our schools as unacceptable does more damage than lack of funding could possibly ever do.
ReplyDeleteOur schools have a Public Relations problem, it's not the quality of the teachers or the quality of education - it's the test scores, and those are not going to change regardless of how many dollars are spent. If your child is bright and the family sees education as a priority, your child will do as well in Norwalk as in New Canaan.
ReplyDelete....While the comedy team of Larry(Cafero)and Bobby(Duff)legislate for the "draw and quartering" of phony autism therapists.... Aren't these guys so-called "influential" residents of Norwalk?? Priorities, boys...priorities! How about working on the phony state ECS money that Norwalk has been receiving, or do you think we get exactly what we deserve?
ReplyDeleteWow - take a breather 3:18 as I'm still trying to figure out why you targeted me. If you don't like the numbers recommended by the finance director, then consider this when you vote for a mayor next November since this position is appointed by the mayor. The same applies to the cap set by the BET. Too often we come out in droves for these budget meetings & for good reason, but we do not carry the same passion for mid-term election, where we have the opportunity to democratically vote for local changes that are in our own personal interest, whether that be investing in education, improving infrastructure or keeping taxes low.
ReplyDelete4:28.. if you posted as 3:18, what irked me is your reference to politics. It is not the mayor's fault for budget crunching, regardless of how any of us feel about him personally or politically. I never said I was unhappy with the numbers; I said they are a reality. Again, and most importantly... you are probably a nice guy/gal with whom I have no reason to banter. We may even see eye to eye, if that is at all possible in this mechanical mode.
ReplyDelete4:13 - you bring up a very good point. That Hartford money is something that does make sense if we really want to get passionate about something we can all agree upon. One thing I did walk away from these meetings with is a newfound understanding that Norwalk generously funded education, year after year, independent of what we could qualify as real assistance from the state. Care to charter a bus? Sadly, this just doesn't seem to be the year for it.
ReplyDeleteThis is all a sad state of affairs. You have a District in Need of Improvement, a new Superintendent who has yet to make any strides except hiring a new COO and setting up workgroups. You have no additional funding for any new programs. You have no plans to grow the Grand List, which would take some of the tax burden off the homeowners. You have State Reps who are not even talking about ECS funding. Last but not least, you now have the majority of City Council and the Mayor holding our children's education and the teachers hostage while they play chicken with the Unions. If it wasn't happening in my town, I would never believe it was true. Since our family values education, it's time to start thinking about moving to a town that shares our values.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you 4:37, unfortunately, housing prices in surrounding towns are far above what we can afford. Even the smallest, most run down homes in Westport or Wilton are beyond our means....and New Canaan and Darien are just a dream.
ReplyDeletethey're laying off about 40 teachers in Wilton, you might not want to go there either.
ReplyDeleteThe realities are the same (laying offs, budget woes) but the town(s) have a commitment to education. I'm am not seeing that here. Unless the Dems have some rock star Mayorial candidate as well as innovative Council and BOE candidates, I think we're going to see more of the same.
ReplyDelete7:34 Then are you saying it's not about the funding in Wilton? That they can cut 40 teachers which means they are not fully funding their schools but they have more commitment to education than Norwalk? In what way is Wilton showing it has more of a commitment then? I don't follow your logic. It appears that you have made a reality a political issue.
ReplyDeleteEvery town is suffering and the only reason none of those towns are "a district in need of improvement" is because they have NO diversity! They probably have bigger achievement gaps than we do but how would we know because without enough kids in a subgroup their scores don't count. Stop comparing Norwalk to those towns, we are a city with both racial and socioeconomic diversity.
ReplyDeleteIf you are so sure the commitment to education is there in all those other towns, read their newspapers - budget issues are affecting everyone. And if you can afford to pay twice as much for the same size house you already own which means at least twice as much taxes then good luck with your move. In a town like Darien where there is no socioeconomic diversity, only upper middle to upper upper class a 6% tax increase is nothing to them. That is not fiscally responsible in Norwalk!
I support a tax increase and I support our schools but people use the bs excuse of Norwalk's Bad School System year after year to justify their need to move to another town and I'm tired of it. I'm happy in our schools, my kids are thriving and while I hope and pray no programs will actually be cut I have FAITH that our excellent and dedicated teachers and staff will find a way to work through this and still provide an excellent education.
Take Pride in Norwalk! The only thing those towns have that we don't is PRIDE! Stop bashing our teachers and schools and support them! Maybe if we all told everyone how special Norwalk is this lingering bad reputation will finally go away.
Don't you realize last year was a 0% increase? Why didn't you move then? Give them a chance to resolve this - I am confident our BOE will come through with a solution.
Wonderful post, 10:22. Excellent points. The only way we differ is that I do not support the tax increase for the 3.7 budget. As it is, I understand our taxes are raised to support the 2.5 percent version. We went from 0 to 2.5, as you mention. That is generous enough, considering the sign of the times. I, too, have faith that all will work out. I am willing to do with less in the classroom... I do that, already. Excellence comes from committment, not from dollars.
ReplyDeleteFor years Norwalk citizens keep recommending, demanding, if you will, that budget cuts begin w/ central office positions. This has not happened. Why? What will we do if it doesn't happen this year?
ReplyDelete6:17--40% of school spending is for Central Orifice--this is a TRAVESTY.
ReplyDeleteOk, "Central Orifice", what are YOU doing about your issue with central office? Enough. I suspect you just like to throw your comments out there, maybe the first time it was cute, now it's old. Offer a solution, or a suggestion. Or at least identify yourself.
ReplyDeleteThank you 4:52, I agree! 4:46, Back up your complaints with facts, please!
ReplyDeleteI'd like to see the exact breakdown of central office positions, it seems to me that they HAVE already been pared down, our key players do have large salaries but then don't CEO's and CFO's in the Private Sector have salaries much higher? No school system can run without a central office and they already have some people doing more than one job at a time. Central Office has cut down on their expenses, support staff, etc... Apparently you are suggesting that NPS key players are not worth their salaries but that is personal opinion. Have you compared their salaries to similar positions in other districts? Is it that Norwalk has a higher number of central office staff with higher salaries or that you believe a school system can run without a central office?
I do believe that if unions negotiate then of course central office staff should be part of a pay/step freeze as well but I am not sure they are not worth having at all which is what you seem to be saying constantly. Even if they streamline and improve efficiency that will not solve all of our budget issues.
Wow. All I can say is wow. We went from a zero increase to 2.5 this year with the education budget, in light of what is going on in the state? Are you kidding? That's more than generous. It is really disgusting that people are downgrading Norwalk right now to make a point. WHAT point? Our surrounding burbs are having their own share of problems. Some of these statements people are making just do not make sense. It just goes to show you how people will come out in droves if the PTOs and teachers (many do not live in Norwalk) are given urgent notice to challenge the budget by school administration and unions. Compound that now with Norwalk's Democratic chairperson taking advantage of these hard times with an anti-campaign. THINK, people! Whatever your politics, it is unconscionable that anyone would stoop to downgrading Norwalk Public Schools in its own behalf.
ReplyDeleteThere must be several 'pare down' central office commentators posting here. I am one,but I don't write all the comments, for sure.
ReplyDeleteMy solution is to take the subject area administrators and create 1/2 time teachers, 1/2 time subject area leaders. Also, the Director of Elementary Education's position is relatively new. Appoint a senior principal to hold the meetings for the 12 principals. A stipend is lots cheaper than a full salary with benefits. The evaluation of these principals can be given to the A.S. If that's not doable, the evaluation of 12 principals can be given to someone up there. The $200,000+ salary and benefits paid for one position doesn't make sense. May I remind the pro-central office posters that this is about positions, not people.
Thank you 8:01 for offering actual suggestions rather than just snarky comments!
ReplyDeleteLet's sww--Tax Bill=$8392
ReplyDeleteEducation = 62% = $5203
Administration = 40% = @2081
DISGUSTING !!!
Why are ther APs in the ELEMENTARY schools?
The AP's are their because they make the school work. Would a middle school of 500 students have only the principal and no one to support them? They are in charge of some teacher's evaluations,curriculum development and implementation, behavior intervention, parent contact and communication and the jobs they do are in addition to the duties of the principal. There are needed, they are necessary, they make the day run smoothly and without them a huge gap will be felt. I am not an AP, wouldn't want to be one,but am glad there is one in my school.
ReplyDeleteI agree that larger elementary schools need AP's. But do the smaller schools? If you compare the administrators in Norwalk to other communities of the the same size do they have comparable numbers? Do other districts have as many curriculum supervisors and special education administrators? Do they have a Director of Elementary Ed? In theses difficult times these positions should be examined to see if they can be reduced to save programs that directly affect our kids.
ReplyDeleteFinally we have some reasonable suggestions. I hope Susan Marks is reading this. If she is interested in what could save money without cutting in the classroom, we've got great solutions right here is these comments.
ReplyDelete8:01 your suggestions are good ones. Is Dr. Marks willing to break with the past for the good of the future? Only time will tell if she will look at the positions in Central Office and not the people. I hope she can do this with a critical eye towards saving school positions which will translate into helping students move forward with rigor.
ReplyDeleteI do not agree that all schools need a VP. There should be a number of student cut-off. Frankly, we have become spoiled, and please don't give that data argument. Teachers can run their own schools and work with the principal. Micromanaging is something some VP's do, and that contributes to low morale in the building. What is compromised is the closer working relationship and foundation of trust between teacher and principal.
ReplyDeleteEliminating or consolidating positions do not happen over night. While we agree that these are good options, contractural agreements play a large role in such decisions. These options are good for dr. Marks to use within the near future as contracts reach their end. The school system needs to look into performance - if they meet it, they can keep their job. Seniority clauses in contracts limits good teachers in the system. I have yet to see the "hR" skills that Dr. Marks outlined in her resume - she's been in the system long enough to start removing wasted positions.
ReplyDelete11:19, you are wrong. Superintendents have the right to eliminate central office positions, and even recreate new ones. There is precedence for this. There have been supervisory positions that have been eliminated and even combined with other positions..and reposted. If I am not mistaken, Miss Muller's job as Supervisor of Language Arts was eliminated and combined. She was a wonderful supervisor, but funds were not available.
ReplyDeleteGO 1:12 pm Many years ago, these positions were created then eliminated. Well, low and behold money was found and these jobs were created again. Combine Supervisor/Specialist in Central Office. Why do we need a Specialist for each subject? Have our test scores gone up? Are the students reaching their full potential? They must make at least $100,000 each, combine these positions and keep the jobs of the "little people" i.e. 1st grade aides.
ReplyDeleteI agree! Instructional Specialists are actually lower down on the chain of command than principals. They can go back to a teaching position(or retire) and no one would miss them. When was the last time they were seen in schools, sent an email or did anything to help classroom teachers?
ReplyDeleteMath coaches really can go back to the classroom. I'd like thoughts on Literacy coaches. Talking to other teachers netted a negative response on their usefulness at this point. Teachers should have it down as to what to do in the classroom re: literacy. If there are new teachers in a building, mentors can address their concerns. Keep the grade level meetings, hold regular grade level meetings with the principal and the school should hold up well. Problems can be addressed on a needs basis. At this point in time, the state of CT can no longer require the fully loaded district plan of Dr. Corda's day. There simply is no funding available for that, and all of CT must adjust. This is not a negative. In fact, I look at it as a positive. Who can deny we need to look at what works and what does not? It is time to assess and prioritize.
ReplyDeleteMore great suggestions! We do have unnecessary positions in the system. This is the truth. Add up the savings!
ReplyDeleteCut 10% from administration--that's 0.1 x 0.4 x 153M = 6.12 MILLION
ReplyDeleteBoard of Education, are you reading this? Don't cut in the classroom.
ReplyDeleteFinally! constructive postings! Except of course for the negatives about Mrs. Marks and no I don't work for her near her or even in the building! Nor do I work in or have anything to do with the schools. But I have watched and listened and just like we all say Obama was left with a mess, well so has Susan Marks! What about the nice cushgy job the Human Relations Director has? Not only is he getting paid a full time salary for a part time job (even less than pt) but he also gets a salary in Hartford where he spends most of huis time, think about it, 2 jobs funded by taxpayer money. Thank you Mr. Corda! Then you have a high schook principal who is making $171,000 and living on a pension from another state! Thank you Mr. Corda! And then we have a middle school principal who is making $151,000 while living on a pension from another state, no wonder she doesn't mind paying higher taxes, again, thank youy Mr. Corda. See, I did my homework and I attended the meetings and I checked the salaries before spouting off and calling the council members racists, biggots, baby killers etc. I went to these meetings educated an informed and willing to listen to all sides of the equation. What you all need to take into account is that these people are where they are because they care! They aren't big executives making huge salaries to come out at night, 3-4 days a week and not only worry about the BOE but also every other department in the city as well as us, the taxpayers!So, if you can find faulkt by all means do something about it, Run for Office and put your personal/family life on the back burner for something like $600 per year before taxes and people who have no consideration at all for the job they are doing.
ReplyDeleteIf you think the Nora King's and friends are the answer to your prayers you might want to check your bank accounts at the door! Giving away the store isn't the answer.
Positions that do not affect the classroom...
ReplyDeleteWho has access to the salaries and benefits? Please do the math on the savings:
Math Coaches
Literacy Coaches
Director of Elementary Education
Subject area administrators- 1/2 time administrator/1/2 time teacher
AP positions at small schools
Did I miss other suggestions?
(Now add stipend for elementary principal to be head principal)
Eliminate one special education administrator.
ReplyDeleteHey 6:16 - unfortunately, the saddest thing of all is that many people in the audience during the budget hearing and the council meeting exhibited outrageously rude behavior. I was at the meetings - all of them - and to honest, I thought people behaved very poorly. You could easily recognize familiar faces. Some were snickering when an opposing viewpoint was stated. Several talked while speakers were expressing their views. There was a group of teachers, who shall remain nameless, who talked incessantly throughout the entire public speaking session of the public hearing. One has to wonder how the students behave in THAT building! It was further appalling that Dr. Moore pointed to her sign "Remember November" when Councilman McQuaid was speaking. Unbelievable rudeness. Worst of all, secondary school students were in the audience. You are right, 6:16. The council members were treated in an unacceptable manner by adults who are just beginning to understand how they gave an increase to the schools (hence the crackhead letter in The Hour from the angry constituent who felt the 2.5 increase was way out of line during these tough times as it is). I was embarrassed to be a part of that audience.
ReplyDeleteThere was absolutely no excuse for Dr. Moore's behaviour. And to think she has impressionable children in her care 8 hrs a day. Who knows what she is teaching them with her poor behaviour! Calling the Republican council members racists,baby killers? what kind of people are educating our children anyway? Watching the dem Council members laugh at their counterparts each time one spoke? I just can't believe the rudeness and the ones that started making basty comments when the first repub councilwomen started to speak? Good for the Mayor for speaking up and kudos to her for saying she listened to everyone else, please show her the same courtesy!If you attended both hearings you know she and others were at both so they sat through many speakers, many who gave the same speach at both! I am appalled at the rudeness of people! Actually downright ashamed!
ReplyDelete3:37 - Aren't specific public accusations like we witnessed at these meetings ( "racist" (Lynne Moore) and immoral (I believe it was the pastor of the Congregational Church on the Green) considered grounds for slander or something similar? Those are very base and serious accusations. I would not think anyone could openly and freely make biased claims without running the risk of possible defamation of character. Slander, if I recall, involves proof. These people definitely strayed from the issue when they got personal. Defamation of character is grounds for a lawsuit. Baby killer? I missed that comment.That's pretty wild. oh, wait... I recall Councilman Bonefant speaking before the vote. He said something like, "Tonight I've been called immoral... a baby killer... etc." Perhaps that was implied. Does anyone remember the precise wording and who said it? As a matter of fact, aren't council meetings recorded? Would the public hearing be on vimeo?
ReplyDelete7:33 - I'm with you all the way! This is exactly what the BOE needs to do with its own budget. Dr. Marks never said she needed more money to do her job well. She drew up a financially responsible budget with commendable cost-saving measures - like the ones you list - as soon as she walked into 125 East Avenue.
ReplyDeleteSo, the public has been dissed twice by our city leaders bottom line we did not get the recommended %s from dr. Marks and Board of Ed. So, back to the cutting board - more cuts must be done on top of the proposed list presented by dr. Marks. The unions are not stepping up so that means more digging in our schools. The question is What Else?
ReplyDeleteNot following your first sentence, 6:02. Read 7:33's post to answer your question.
ReplyDeletebaby killer was said by a pastor/minister of one of the churches. so many nasty comments thrown around it was hard to keep up. And then the sign being held up by Dr. Moore? Remember November? Is this the way a principal should act? Or her behaviour at the Finance public hearing? Not addressing the issues, only threatening the republicans with their demise? People need to take into account that the council works with the numbers presented and makes their decision based upon what the city can afford. How the BOE spends the 2.4% increase is another story. Keep in mind that last year they got a 0% increase and no programs/teachers etc., were cut. Its all in the economy and the monies being sent to Norwalk from the state and federal gov. and by all accounts thats next to nothing.
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